Ascending Descending. What about ascending and descending? This is first posed in Proverbs 30:4. “Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended?” and asked again in Romans 10:6-7. “Who shall ascend into heaven? Or, Who shall descend into the deep?” This Old and New Testament question is a test of one’s Bible knowledge and the scriptures have the answer. In this message the true biblical names of God, Jesus, and God’s children will be used, and they are covered in detail in the message “Three Holy Names”.
According to the Bible those who ascend and descend were seen by Jacob. “And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.” (Genesis 28:12) In 1 Samuel 28:7-25 Saul went to the witch of Endor to get her to call Samuel from the dead. She did her mumbo jumbo and all of a sudden was scared to death when God showed her what was really going on in the earth. Saul wanted to know what had frightened her so “And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.” (1 Samuel 28:13) The King Jimmy boys translated the Hebrew word “ELOHEEM” into the generic English word “gods”. This word “ELOHEEM” is the family, surname of YAHWAH as seen from the ancient text for Genesis 2:4, and is addressed in the message “The Eighth Step”. These King James translators did this over 2,600 times in their “Authorized Version”. Since when does a King get to AUTHORIZE the version of any translation of the Bible? The answer to this question is the reason people left home and family and took a perilous journey to the distant wilderness of America which is covered in the message “Race Is The Issue”.
The ELOHEEM are also referred to as “angels” in the scriptures. This is seen in Judges 13:3-24 when Manoah and his wife were told that they would have a son who would be named Samuel. “And the angel of the LORD (YAHWAH) appeared unto the woman, and said unto her, Behold now, thou art barren, and bearest not: but thou shalt conceive, and bear a son. … And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God (ELOHEEM).” (Judges 13:3, 22) The entity that appeared to them is called an “Angel” and ELOHEEM translated “God”. These ELOHEEM “angels” are doing the ascending and descending whither they are spoken of in the Old or New Testament. Jesus tells Nathanael that he will see such an event. “And He saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.” (John 1:51) Who understands that Jacob’s vision is the same thing that Jesus tells Nathanael he will see?
In the 3rd chapter of John when speaking to Nicodemus about flesh and spirit “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. … The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. … If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? (go to top)
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.” (John 3:5-6, 8, 12-13) Not only do those who are born of the Spirit “come” and “goeth”, but also no one “ascended up to heaven” if they did not come “down from heaven” whose dwelling “is in heaven.” The phrase “the son of man” does not just pertain to Jesus for it is used in Numbers, Job, Psalms, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, and Hebrews, and none of these are speaking about Jesus but are talking about the sons of “the Adam” of Genesis 2:7. More about this is covered in the messages “Adam Was Not The First Living Soul” and “Adam Was Not The First Human”.
Jesus descended from heaven and will ascend back to heaven. He clearly states this when He tells the disciples “What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where He was before?” (John 6:62) Also He had come into and left earth more than once. “I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: AGAIN, I leave the world, and go to the Father.” (John 16:28) Nothing can be done “AGAIN” that has never been done before, and this is not unique to Jesus but it pertains to His ELOHEEM brothers as well. Furthermore, Jesus is NOT the Father YAHWAH God and for this scriptural truth go to the message “Higher Than Jesus”. When Mary goes to the tomb “Jesus saith unto her, Touch Me not; for I am not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My God, and your God.” (John 20:17) He tells her that He cannot remain in earth but must “ascend”, and He then speaks about His “Father”, His “God”, and His “brethren”. These “brethren” do not become that by “believing, accepting, or choosing” as the Church-kikes proclaim, but are the FOREKNOWN and PREDESTINATED ones of God. “For whom He (YAHWAH) did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He (YAHWASUA) might be the firstborn among many brethren.” (Romans 8:29) Like Jesus who was “the firstborn from the dead” (Colossians 1:18), so His ELOHEEM brethren are to be “born” from the dead into life. “And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath He (YAHWAH) quickened (made alive) together with Him (YAHWASUA), having forgiven you all trespasses” (Colossians 2:13).
There are only 2 things that exist! They are YAHWAH’S creation and His children ELOHEEM which He took out of Himself, named, and wrote them down in the “Book of Life” in heaven BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD, Revelation 13:8 and 17:8. For the fundamental principles of the oracles of God go to the messages contained in “Life Changing Bible Knowledge”, and to learn more about the ELOHEEM go to “Biblical Ancient Aliens”. As the ELOHEEM were with their Father in heaven, He is with them in the earth. It is during their pilgrimage sojourning in the earth that they are perfected in order to administer YAHWAH’S government kingdom “in earth as it is in heaven”. To understand the Father’s plan that is going on today then go to the message “Made Perfect”. There is a reason for the “Ascending Descending” and it is all about the glorious destiny of the ELOHEEM. This is just the beginning.